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“The Seventy Four Gun Ship” by Jean Boudriot

This is not a book review.

The 4 books listed in the title are so superb, that I feel humble just turning the pages and reading the text here and there. A similar reaction to when I bought Encyclopaedia Britannica 40 something years ago.

I found out about these books almost a year ago, and since then I have been searching for second hand copies because they are expensive. I remember spending similar amounts on medical text books, but found it hard to justify the cost of these sailing ship books for a hobby.

I read a review of the French version Vol1 by master ship modeller Olha Batchvarov… (https://youtu.be/D3Pd2IXN5Cs?si=JL7FphWLPe2K1asv) and my search intensified. I asked my local second hand book seller to let me know if he ever found a set, but no luck. I often searched Ebay but never saw anything in Australia, and sets in USA had asking prices up to $USD4500!! New sets from Ancre, France are touching $aud1000 plus postage (around $aud200), but recently an enquiry to them elicited a question “would I be interested in a second hand set?” Would I ever?! It was still pricey, but after thinking it over for a couple of weeks, and having sold some stuff I no longer needed, and getting agreement from SWMBO, I placed the order. I am guessing that Trump’s tariffs have inflated the crazy US prices.

The 10kg carton arrived several weeks later.

The books were actually new! Some still in their original sealed packaging. One volume showed some slight evidence of aging paper, and all volumes were slightly damaged which I guess is why they were categorized as second hand. The hard cover corners were crumpled. That would not have been acceptable in a brand new set, and I guess that caused them to be not sold as new by the book seller, Ancre(fr). I checked that they were the version in English.

I would have accepted the damage as part of second hand books, so I was not too perturbed in view of the price reduction. I am sure that the damage was old, because the books were well packaged in bubble wrap for the air freight to Australia.

At first the crumpled corners looked permanent, but then I decided to have a go at improving the situation. No before photos unfortunately.

I dampened the corners with a water soaked and wrung out cloth . Then, one at a time, clamped the corners with plastic encased wood working G cramps, and left them for a couple of hours. The crumples improved. And the squareness and stiffness of the corners is almost back to normal. There is no decolourisation apart from ageing effects. Not noticed (or mentioned) by colleagues to whom the books have been shown, with the dust-cover in place.

Not too bad with the dust-covers in place!
Without the dust covers. This is the worst one. But it is stiff and the shape is almost normal.

I do not intend to review these books. If you are interested, check the Batchvarov review mentioned above. I will just say that the books are a pleasure to handle. a pleasure to read the expert conversational writing, and illuminating to view the many perspective and plan drawings.

One other thing to mention, is that the books are about the full size, original 1780 ships. Although useful, even essential to modellers of 74 gun ships, extra plans for the modeller from Ancre (fr) are probably essential.

The author, Jean Boudriot, was a French architect, who had a passionate interest in French sailing ships. He wrote many books about the history and construction of sailing ships, but this set is considered his master work. He chose the 74 gun ship for this, because it was built at the peak of French naval ship building, when the French navy equaled the strength of the British navy, and when French designed and built warships were generally considered the best in the world, even by the British. That was around 1780. The British saw the value of the 74 gun ships, which were 3rd rates, because they sat in a “sweet spot” of gun power, speed and manoeuvrability, and both navies built large numbers of them. About 200 vessels of the type in each navy 1750-1800.

Boudriot’s architectural drawing skills are apparent in the profuse drawings, many in 3D perspective.

Boudriot’s perspective drawings are invaluable for coming to grips with the complexities of these ships, particularly hull framing and rigging.
Many of the drawings show details which would otherwise be invisible and unknown. Some of the iron fasteners holding the massive timbers of the keel and stem together are shown here. Up to 2 meters long and 50mm diameter. Boudriot’s research was extensive.

Volume 1 Hull Construction 166pp, 16 plates (fold out plans), 106 figures.

Volume 2 Fitting Out the Hull 220pp, 26 plates, 107 figures.

Volume 3 Sails, Rigging 289pp 13 plates, 134 figures.

Volume 4 Shiphandling 394pp 17 plates, 167 figures.

Expert ship modellers have used these books to produce magnificent models, but there are also opinions that prospective modellers (like me) should also purchase modellers plans from Ancre (fr) which are based on the Boudriot plans. Those modellers plans are available in 1:72 and 1:48 scale. I chose the 1:72 scale, in consideration of the final size of the ship and case.

74 gun ship modelled by master Russian modeller D Shevelev. See more photographs of this incredible model at https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/iv-open-cup-of-kyiv-2013.15534/

Next Build

I knew that making a model of USS Constitution would be a learning exercise. And that mistakes would be made, new techniques learned, new tools purchased and made. And I did make many mistakes. But the end result was OK. Good enough that one of my daughters said that she would like to have it. And good enough for a prize at the local show.

Maybe the mistakes were not that bad. In any case, I have decided to make another model sailing ship, building on the experience obtained from Constitution.

The next model will be a ship “of the line”. That is, a battleship which was built to take the severe punishment of a fleet action, like Trafalgar 1805, or The Nile 1798. These ships were floating gun platforms, mounting guns up to 36 or even 42 pounders. Not as fast as frigates, but definitely more powerful.

In the British and French navies 1750-1800, the most commonly built ship of the line was the 74 gun ship. Both navies built almost 200 of these class 3 ships of the line. The French first produced them, but when their power and sailing qualities became obvious, the British followed. The British admired the design and build quality of the French ships, and produced their own version, after capturing and copying French versions.

The 74’s were large ships for their era, weighing 3000 tons fully gunned and provisioned. (c.f. Constitution – 2000 tons fully loaded). They mounted 74 guns, on 2 roofed gun decks and the exposed top deck.

For the model I have a dilemma. Do I make a model with hull planking, masts and rigging (like my Constitution in the photo), or an “Admiralty” model, which is hull only, showing the curvaceous hull framing timbers, no or minimal planks, and no masts and rigging.

Example of an Admiralty model under construction.
each one of those frames is made of 12-14 individual parts and this photo shows only the forward section. Only 2 of the frames are the same… the rest are all unique. And the decks and beams and internal details are yet to be added. A beautiful, organic shape to be sure.
This brigantine is under construction by Australian master modeller Tim Gee.
And this is a truly magnificent model of a French 74 made by Russian master modeller D. Shevelev.
The detail is extraordinary. 6 years to complete. See Ships of Scale for many photos.

If only I had started this hobby 20 or 30 years ago!

To help me with my dilemma, and for more information I borrowed some plans of a British 74, HMS Vanguard, and also purchased a set of 4 books from Ancre, France…

These books by Jean Boudriot (dec) are translated into English. Volume 1 is about the hull. Vol 2 is the hull fittings, Vol 3 is the masts, sails and rigging, and Vol 4 is about the seamanship and sailing of the 74. They were listed as second hand, but in fact were all brand new, but slightly damaged. They had all been dropped at at some time, and the covers corners were crumpled. I spent some time repairing or minimising the damage by dampening the crumpled corners then squeezing them with woodworking cramps until dry. That worked pretty well. Postage from France ($aud200 !!), was covered by the price reduction. Expensive books, but they are lovely to read and beautiful to hold and behold. Very detailed, and will be read and re-read many times. The author, Jean Boudriot, was an architect, and his diagrams and drawings are superb. The text is conversational and entertaining. There are many and detailed plans of the un-named ship, but they are about the full size ship, and not ideal for the modeller. So the publisher (Ancre) also has plans drawn by an expert modeller, at extra cost. I ordered those extra plans separately and paid more extortionate postage to get them. They are very detailed. Should have added them to my initial books order. Would have saved $aud100.

The HMS Vanguard plans also apply to HMS Elephant, and HMS Bellerophon, which had variations mainly in the stern decorations. If I use those plans, it would be a bulkhead, keel, and planking construction, with masts, rigging and possibly sails, but no interior or hull framing detail. A scratch build. And I would use the Bellerophon name and details because of the association with Napoleon Bonaparte. The Boudriot books would doubtless be used to confirm details.

If I do plunge into the Admiralty model….. 1. It might never be finished (I am 75 years old). 2. It might be beyond my abilities.

If I use the Vanguard plans …. 1. It might never be finished 2. It might be beyond my abilities. But at least I would get to use my rope making tools again.

In either case, it would be a challenge, and fun, at times. Maybe I should build 2 models…

Any opinions or feedback from readers?

p.s. Vale Les Madden, fellow modeller, razor sharp intellect, and friend. An inspiration to all who knew him.