Next Build
by John
I knew that making a model of USS Constitution would be a learning exercise. And that mistakes would be made, new techniques learned, new tools purchased and made. And I did make many mistakes. But the end result was OK. Good enough that one of my daughters said that she would like to have it. And good enough for a prize at the local show.

Maybe the mistakes were not that bad. In any case, I have decided to make another model sailing ship, building on the experience obtained from Constitution.
The next model will be a ship “of the line”. That is, a battleship which was built to take the severe punishment of a fleet action, like Trafalgar 1805, or The Nile 1798. These ships were floating gun platforms, mounting guns up to 36 or even 42 pounders. Not as fast as frigates, but definitely more powerful.
In the British and French navies 1750-1800, the most commonly built ship of the line was the 74 gun ship. Both navies built almost 200 of these class 3 ships of the line. The French first produced them, but when their power and sailing qualities became obvious, the British followed. The British admired the design and build quality of the French ships, and produced their own version, after capturing and copying French versions.
The 74’s were large ships for their era, weighing 3000 tons fully gunned and provisioned. (c.f. Constitution – 2000 tons fully loaded). They mounted 74 guns, on 2 roofed gun decks and the exposed top deck.
For the model I have a dilemma. Do I make a model with hull planking, masts and rigging (like my Constitution in the photo), or an “Admiralty” model, which is hull only, showing the curvaceous hull framing timbers, no or minimal planks, and no masts and rigging.





If only I had started this hobby 20 or 30 years ago!
To help me with my dilemma, and for more information I borrowed some plans of a British 74, HMS Vanguard, and also purchased a set of 4 books from Ancre, France…

The HMS Vanguard plans also apply to HMS Elephant, and HMS Bellerophon, which had variations mainly in the stern decorations. If I use those plans, it would be a bulkhead, keel, and planking construction, with masts, rigging and possibly sails, but no interior or hull framing detail. A scratch build. And I would use the Bellerophon name and details because of the association with Napoleon Bonaparte. The Boudriot books would doubtless be used to confirm details.
If I do plunge into the Admiralty model….. 1. It might never be finished (I am 75 years old). 2. It might be beyond my abilities.
If I use the Vanguard plans …. 1. It might never be finished 2. It might be beyond my abilities. But at least I would get to use my rope making tools again.
In either case, it would be a challenge, and fun, at times. Maybe I should build 2 models…
Any opinions or feedback from readers?
p.s. Vale Les Madden, fellow modeller, razor sharp intellect, and friend. An inspiration to all who knew him.

Whichever way you decide John, we know it will be thoroughly researched and undertaken with your usual skill and innovation, all generously shared with the rest of us. Anchors away ! Tim
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Thanks & regards Tim
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Nah. You’re gonna be modeling when you’re 95. Finish this one when you’re 77.
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Aloha John,
Old Ironsides is a beauty!
I don’t think anything is beyond your abilities. Great idea to use your mini ropewalk again.
I’m dumbfounded by the scale of your model. Unlike most of the world, we use Imperial measure here in the US. During my 50+ years of design practice I used 1/4″=1′, 3″=1′, etc. for most of my work.
It was a royal pain in the butt that the US didn’t adopt the Metric system back in the 1970s or the 1870s for that matter.
So, please tell (remind?) me why the model is built at a scale of 93:1. That number may be incorrect due to my sometimes faulty memory. Has it something to do with conversion from Imperial too Metric?
Mahalo, Richard
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Hi Richard, yes 1:93 is odd in more ways than one. Almost as irrational as US using els or cubits or whatever. 1:93 is a very Italian choice of scale. I gather that it was chosen so the models would end up at almost exactly 900mm long, which is regarded as ideal for a midrange model ship.
I also understand that the official measurement system of USA is METRIC, not feet and inches (and cubits).
Thanks for the message. And very kindest regards… John
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Congratulations John on winning first prize. Well deserved.
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Ahoy There Shipmate.
I think you just need to build what you really want especially if you think you might only have one left in you. If the project is going to be long then you need to keep up the enthusiasm so just build what you want. If its tricky you’ll learn on the way and you might be able to build the easy bits first.
Don’t get me started on units. In the UK it’s a real pain, as we use both! You buy fuel in litres but your car tells you miles per gallon and so it goes on but you get used to it.
All the best
Rich
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