Another Use for Magnets
by John
I purchased some bronze disks for use in the model Trevithick dredger engine. The disks 204mm diameter had been bandsawn off rod. I had specified minimum thicknesses of 7mm and 12mm. One disk was 9.2-9.7mm thick and the other was 12-15mm thick.

The bandsawn blanks of LG2 bronze.
In preparing the disks for machining I filed off a few protrusions, and using a straight edge, identified the valleys and ridges.
The thicker disk was held in the 3 jaw chuck and both faces were turned flat with no problems except avoiding the needles which were thrown off in a wide arc around my lathe. Final thickness 12.5mm. A persisting divot should be able to be avoided in the final part.
The thinner disk needed to be packed out from the jaws of the chuck by 4-5mm in order that the lathe tool cleared the jaws during machining. In the past I have used machined packing pieces, but it is always a fiddle to hold the workpiece, the 3 packing pieces and the chuck key in only 2 hands. Today I had a brainwave.
I used rare earth magnets!
I tried to measure the thickness of the magnets, but they are so powerful that I was not confident that I was getting accurate readings. So I just used them and measured the thickness of the finished workpiece.
I am sure that this idea is not original. But it is to me.

Here is the thin workpiece held in the 3 jaw, and packed away from the chuck by rare earth magnets. Of course the magnets are attracted only to the jaws, and not the bronze workpiece, which helps, but I will try this on steel later. Should work for magnetic metals also.
After machining both faces I took various measurments of the workpiece thickness. The measurements in mm were 8.73, 8.68, 8.69, 8.72, 8.70, 8.72. Not perfect, but not too bad at all. I wonder if I might have improved the measurements by surface grinding the magnets. I wonder if the chuck and its jaws are contributing to the variation. It was certainly an easy method.
If the workpiece had been thinner I could have increased the thickness of the packing by doubling up the magnets.
For those who are following the Trevithick Dedger Engine build, the bronze was not cheap. The 12-15mm disk was $AUD90 and the 9mm disk was about $AUD80. From George White P/L, Melbourne. I will be nervously trying to not muck up the machining.
Good one re the magnets John,
Off topic…that’s s handy looking 3 jaw, do you mind saying what the lathe is?
Cheers, Tim (Bolton 7)
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Hi Tim, it is a GBC 400-1000. A 2 tonne Chinese lathe. Can swing 400 (or more with the gap removed from the bed). It is handy for big items, but is noisy. I much prefer my Colchester Master 2500. John
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That’s some choice you have John.
My Myford Super 7 is a joy but is sometimes a boy on a man’s errand.
I’m sniffing around for a bigger brother.
Tim
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That’s a great choice you have John.
My Myford Super 7 is a joy but is sometimes a boy on a man’s errand.
I’m sniffing around for a bigger brother and the name Colechester is never far from my mind.
Tim
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I am rather spoiled for choice of lathes. I was supposed to sell the GBC when I bought the Colchester but I have a problem. I am a lathe addict. Once acquired, I cannot part with a lathe. I think that I have 10 or 11 now, including some jewellers’ lathes and 2 CNC lathes. SWMBO is terrified that I will cark it, leaving her to dispose of them. But she does admit that my obsession is less expensive than golf. I am not sure that it true, but I am not arguing.
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There was story once in model Enginner magasine that this reminded me of. Of course the person involved could have been you.
A man was in his shed turning a large piece of metal on a small lathe. Just then it happened to be coffee break time and his wife appeared with coffee and biscuits. As she saw what he was doing on his lathe she said wasn’t the workpiece a bit big for his lathe. His answer (to the reader) was I wasn’t going to disagree with her.so I went out and bought a bigger one
john f
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Ha ha. Not me.
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John you may get some joy from my collectable Toyo ML1 miniature precision lathe.
It’s in beautiful condition. There is a good description on lathes. co.uk. and you can also get images on google.
For such a small lathe it is incredibly rigid and smooth as silk.
You might say I’m smitten.
Ah the collector’s curse.
Tim
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Oh….. that’s not s sales pitch, just enthusiasm. Tim
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Understood. Very nice. Looks rigid. Collets or 3/4 jaw?
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Three /four jaw John.
I was lucky to buy a superb self centering 3 jaw key type not scroll and can’t measure any run out.
Doing it justice is the challenge.
Tim
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